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Top Gun : Another Mystery Solved!

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Well, I was just checking out the bloody body of the Red Baron when I solved another Unsolved Mystery of the Universe.

Well, at least World History anyways. ?id=47ffa4c119&Catid=46d71da43

Pears the Bullet hit the Baron, basically, right straight across the chest from right underarm to left tit which, to myself, rules out any type of ground shot, period and, further, also rules out Brown who was trying to bag the dog from a very steep dive.

In other words, the Baron would have lost his butt or his head, or both, with one shot and not straight through his bloody heart - and, further, either from above or below due to the angles involved, should have left bullet holes in other parts of the plane and there were none.

This means that the only person who could have shot the Sour Crout was none other than Wilfrid May and I suspect - being in the more maneuverable plane - that, after he lured the Baron into a chase by bagging his cousin, that when the Baron turned to avoid Brown that May turned, for all practical purposes, at exactly the same time, in a sharper turn and then, when the Baron was coming out of his turn, May would have been, basically, perpendicular to the Baron and shot the him right through the heart with one extremely well placed round.

Basically, while still turning he got his sights set on the Baron and led the shot through the air turbulence with pin point split second accuracy.

More or less.

So, after I determined this, I decided that I would try and find out more about this Canadian and, turns out I was right - no doubt in my mind that he plugged the Baron and, do you want to know how?

Now, in April, 1918, with 80 kills to his name, von Richthofen is due to go home on leave. But his final day of active duty will end in death, clouded by mystery and controversy. Ten days before his 26th birthday, Manfred von Richthofen is dead. The great pilot and tactician had broken one of his own key rules, pursuing a risky low-level chase into enemy territory. NOVA Who Killed the Red Baron? PBS Airdate: October 7, 2003

He intentionally made sure that he shot the Aviator the day after his own 22nd Birthday just as a Signature - kinda like joining the Royal Air Force in February for some strange and unknown reason.

Though he was their greatest foe, the Allies buried Manfred von Richthofen alongside their own dead on April 22, 1918, with full military honors. Who Killed the Red Baron? PBS Airdate: October 7, 2003

Oh yeah.

That also means, assuredly, that he bagged the Baron while still suffering from a Massive Hangover.

How's that for some fancy shooting, hey...



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Snoopy vs. the Red Baron

The Royal Guardsmen - Hill Paraphrase

Around the turn of the century
In the clear blue skies of a Germany
Came a roaring and a thunder man had never heard
The screamin' sound of a big war bird

Up in the sky, a man and his plane
Baron von Redenbacher was his name
Eighty men tried and eighty men died
Now they're buried together on the countryside

Ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty or more
The Bloody Red Baron was rollin' up a score
Eighty men died tryin' to end that spree
Of the Bloody Red Baron of Germany

In the nick of time, a hero arose
A funny looking dog with a big fat hose
He flew into the sky to seek revenge
The Baron turned him down - "Curses, foiled again!"

Ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty or more
The Bloody Red Baron was rollin' up a score
Eighty men died tryin' to end that spree
Of the Bloody Red Baron of Germany

Now, Snoopy had sworn that he'd bag that man
So he scratched his Great Pumpkin for a new battle plan
He challenged the German to a real dogfight
While the Baron was laughing, he got him in his sight

Now the Bloody Red Baron was in a fix
He'd tried everything, but he'd run out of tricks
Snoopy fired once and never fired twice
And the Bloody Red Baron went bleeding out of sight


3theoferrumii Mark Private to theoferrumii Delete Edit Edited 2008-04-11 16:52 2008-04-11 16:47

Wilfrid Reid "Wop" May, OBE, DFC (April 20, 1896 – June 21, 1952), was a World War I flying ace and a pioneering aviator who created the role of bush pilot while working the Canadian west.

May was born in Carberry, Manitoba, son of a carriage maker. His family moved to Edmonton in 1903, and while on the way they stayed with family and friends, and his two-year-old cousin gave him his nickname "Wop".

Manfred Albrecht Freiherr von Richthofen (2 May 1892 – 21 April 1918) was a German fighter pilot known as "The Red Baron". He was the most successful flying ace of World War I, being officially credited with 80 confirmed air combat victories.[1][2] Richthofen was a member of an aristocratic family with many famous relatives.



4theoferrumii Mark Private to theoferrumii Delete Edit2008-04-11 16:55

He actually looks similar to his name sake - Sir Wilfrid Laurier...



5theoferrumii Mark Private to theoferrumii Delete Edit Edited 2008-04-11 17:09 2008-04-11 16:56

Think its just a coincidence that he died on my birthday - February 17?

Sir Wilfrid Laurier, PC, GCMG, KC, baptized Henri-Charles-Wilfrid Laurier (November 20, 1841 – February 17, 1919) was the seventh Prime Minister of Canada from July 11, 1896, to October 5, 1911.



6theoferrumii Mark Private to theoferrumii Delete Edit Edited 2009-12-30 12:21 2008-04-11 17:57

I read a book once on Handwriting Analysis when I was at the Dam and they said that when a person curves the Y stem backwards (actually forward but backwards from what you would think it should be almost like a lower case Q then a Y) that it means that the person is Altruistic and it is a fairly rare condition.

Guess how both myself and Mr. May write his last name...



I would also have to say that Mr. May, from his signiature, is probably very well endowed.

It pays to advertise, hey...



7theoferrumii Mark Private to theoferrumii Delete Edit Edited 2008-04-12 15:58 2008-04-12 14:35

Snooping around: Rural idylls (4 pictures)

April 12 2008: Considering a move or just wondering how the other half lives? =333500530


8theoferrumii Mark Private to theoferrumii Delete Edit Edited 2009-12-30 12:57 2008-04-12 14:42

There is one additional proof that it was May who shot down the Baron for those who believe in these things and that is simply that the Baron was an Immortal who had gone through what they themselves call the Quickening which is the period of time when their spirit reconnects to their body and the whole person is in sync and the system is flushed of all extraneous chemicals, etc, that it doesn't need and then they can hear the beat of an Elk's Heart from 20 paces - or so the movies would have us believe.

Now, to give you another example, witnesses have recorded that under extreme conditions on the battlefield that they have actually experienced the ability to see bullets coming at them and have been able to duck out of the way and avoid the bullet which is, basically, what a snake can do if it wasn't stupid enough to try and bite the bullet.

Now, this is mortals under extreme duress but for the Immortals, this is a constant way of life. Another example is the Star Trek Next Generation Episode where they were on vacation on a planet where the people never aged (i.e. immortals) and they had perfect coordination and hand to eye reflexes and they had four kids kicking four soccer balls around in a circle - juggling soccer balls in a circle.

The immortals can do this all the time and which is why they called it the quickening in the first place.

Richthofen was a highly experienced and skilled fighter pilot — fully aware of the risk from ground fire. Furthermore he was fully in accord with his late mentor Boelcke's rules of air fighting, which were strongly against taking foolish risks. In view of all this, it is universally accepted that Richthofen's judgment during his last combat was uncharacteristically unsound in several respects. Wikipedia

Now, there ain't no way possible that either Brown or a shooter from the ground could have bagged the Baron and,in fact, you can consider it a unwritten law that an Immortal just can't be killed by a Mortal - period - unless he is trying to lose one of his ID's and, therefore, the shooter must have been someone else and, in fact, probably had to have been another immortal.

Why did Germany's master tactician break his own rules, pursuing Wilfrid May far into enemy territory, low down and all alone? NOVA Who Killed the Red Baron? PBS Airdate: October 7, 2003

May would have known that when he attacked the Baron's cousin that the Baron would give chase and possibly even waited until he knew for sure he would.

Yes, he disobeyed his own rules for reasons which we do not know, which we cannot pursue nowadays, but he did, and he paid for it with his life. NOVA Who Killed the Red Baron? PBS Airdate: October 7, 2003

Further, he would have known that, when Brown saw the 'newbie' being chased by one of the enemy that he would have picked up the chase as well so all May did is wait for Brown to attack the Baron and then he used that moment to get close enough to him to send home that one shot.

He had to get in close because, if not, then the Baron could literally dodge the bullet and, in fact, if you think about the trajectory involved, and the low seating position of the pilot and the fact that the Baron's plane sustained no injuries, then you will see that, in fact, the Baron, in just the split second that he had, actually did try and dodge the bullet for he raised his body above the rim of the ****pit and his right arm was then out of the way in a possible attempted dive under the consul but he just did not have the time to execute the dodge and took the bullet in the side instead without the bullet punching through the frame of the plane. Not only that but in order to get the Baron to expose his flank May would have had to have approached him from slightly underneath in order to get the Baron to try and jump up over the frame of the craft.

All that planing with pin point accuracy and split second timing was certainly not beginners luck but was, in fact, a well planned and executed strategy designed to give Brown the credit and make it look like dumb luck.

Another book called it Shibumi.

Effortless Perfection...




9theoferrumii Mark Private to theoferrumii Delete Edit Edited 2008-04-23 16:40 2008-04-22 22:47

So, I was thinking about this again today and I know exactly what he did.

He took a British .303 and sawed off the Barrell and Stock and made the first British .303 Pistol and then purposedly jamned up the barrel of the guns on the plane so he could 'prove' that he didn't bag the Baron and then, when the moment of opportunity presented itself, fired through the prop and hit the Baron in the Heart and that was the end of that story.

Now you know why he's really wearing that trench coat, don't ya.

And, do you want to know how I know that is what he did?

Cause that is exactly what I would have done...



10theoferrumii Mark Private to theoferrumii Delete Edit2008-04-27 18:16

“WOP” is the English pronunciation of the Ital-Neapolitan word “GUAPPO”. The word defines those who belong to the Guapperia o “Camorra”, a criminal organization similar to the Sicilian Mafia located mostly in the province of Campania (an Italian Province) and its capital Napoli, Italia.

The term is still commonly used especially in Central-South Italy (Meridione) to describe those that either belong to the organization or those that are arrogant to the point of inducing a fight.

It was brought to the USA by early Italian immigrants from the province of Campania who named those suspected to belonging to the Guapperia “Guappi”, in a similar fashion the Sicilians used the term “Mafiosi”.

Widely used in Chicago where most immigrants from Campania settled, one of its native sons Al Capone was a typical Guappo, it was confused by the non Italian population to indicate people of Italian origins, similarly the word “Paesano”.

The term has been erroneously explained to mean “Without Papers” because of the initials “WP” by those, Italian descent or not, that have little knowledge of Italian history and dialects.

The term has taken a derogatory meaning in North America and for many refers to people of Italian origin or background.

11theoferrumii Mark Private to theoferrumii Delete Edit Edited 2009-12-30 12:14 2009-12-30 12:10

Here is a little side note of interest.

The author of the lyrics and music to the Immortal Theme Song from the Highlander Movie "Who Wants to Live Forever" was a guy called Brian May. In the movie the lady dectective realizes that he was an immortal from his signiature - just like in this thread. So, the movie, like the Bourne Identity, was made for my benefit.

The movie came out in 1986, the Song the same year, and I just read it last night while putting my post together on the Last Immortal. Thus, this is another one of my signatures or the immortals used it in my place.

There is more to that little Signature and story. When I was posting my Thread, the Last Immortal on GLP one person replied who used the screen name UnwanteDreams and that is what the song below talks about.

The song also point out that there is no place for them - the immortals - made 'famous' by the Immortal Clint Eastwood in his movie, "No Place for Old Men" and is taken from the Bible in Daniel and Revelation where "there was no place found for them."

So, here is some more proof that I am telepathic through time.

Words and music by Brian May

There's no time for us
There's no place for us
What is this thing that builds our dreams yet slips away
From us

Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever....?

There's no chance for us
Its all decided for us
This world has only one sweet moment set aside for us

Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?

Who dares to love forever?
When love must die

But touch my tears with your lips
Touch my world with your fingertips
And we can have forever
And we can love forever
Forever is our today
Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?
Forever is our today

Who waits forever anyway?


12theoferrumii Mark Private to theoferrumii Delete Edit Edited 2009-12-30 19:18 2009-12-30 19:15

So, after I placed the SHAPE Crest on the post on the Last Immortal they incorporated it into the movie. Connor's home museam to which he takes the Lady Dectective is in the shape of the circle with the doorway being the bottom of the picture and that cause of something I said, not to them, but to my boys about us coming full circle, whom are out their somewhere waiting to execute vengeance on all our enemies and some of whom have seen this whole process from start to finish - 1984 to 2009 - or a quarter of a century of pain and suffering at the hands of the immortals.




Welcome to my World...

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