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Ambrosia - the Elixir of the Gods



So, awhile back I wrote up a 'fictional' account of a guy by the name of Demophaen - destroyer of the gods - and in this little story, he obtains immortality from partaking of Ambrosia - the nectar of the gods - which, supposedly, made them immortal.

Turns out I might not have been too far off the mark but, let me set the stage with part of another post which I descided needed its own thread.

If the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry it or if the place is too far from you, which Y'hava your God shall choose to set His name there, when Y'hava your God has blessed you, then you thou turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and shall go unto the place which Y'hava your God shall choose, then you shall bestow that money for whatsoever your spirit desires whether oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink or whatever your spirit wants and you shall eat there before Y'hava your God and your shall rejoice...

This is the commandment given to the Israelites for the paying of their tithes and it usually occured on Tabernacles every year. You can see that if they wanted to, after they had paid the tithes to the Priests that they were to have a celebration to the Lord and, if they wanted, they could go out and buy wine or strong drink which is, basically, beer.

The word used for soul is actually the Hebrew Nephesh and means Spirit and thus whatever your spirit wanted you could buy and partake during that festival. One would suspect that this may have included psychedelic drugs as well. It has been shown that the Egyptians (i.e. time of Moses and the Exodus) used cocaine and, apparently, the Pink Lotus is some type of psychedelic drug and the herb used by the Mithras Initiate was found in the black soil which is, assuredly, originally referring to Egypt. This is the flower that appears on the Icon of St. Mark which is probably referred to as the Blue Lotus which is not psychedelic in nature but, apparently, its better then viagra. Notice the name of this narcotic little lilly of the Nile - Nymphaea - which is one of the stages in the Mithras Religion.

Anyways, the point is that, in theory, one could try the Eucharist in a Thanksgiving Meal to Y'hava during Tabernacles - when the dominant sacrifice was a Bull - after having partaken of the herb of ones choice.

Interestingly enough, Tabernacles comes early this year on September 23, 2010 AD.

The Month of the Lion...

Now, of course, we have the episode of Odin gaining the Mead of Inspiration which is connected to, at least, an Eagle and a Cave and thus here we may have a connection to the Herbs used by the Mithras Religion and this may, indirectly, tie into the crucifixion itself since this same Odin hung on a tree for nine days to learn the riddle of the runes.

There is no doubt that, somehow, psychedelic drugs somehow make a connection to your spirit and you are able to see into the spiritual realm as have the Shamans and others through the years. Thus, in theory, were one to use a mind altering drug and then receive communion it would have the potential of bringing the divine benefits of the Eucharist into this realm and into you physical body. This would especially be true of one that has been to Theoferrum and whose spirit has already been alloyed to Y'shua's Divine Spirit.

This, if true, would actually have remifications for reception of the Eucharist and, in fact, it may be possible that the only way to properly receive the Eucharist is to, also, reverantly recieve a similar drug.

I smoke religiously...

Norse mythology is full of dwarves and giants, as well as gods. As was also the case in Greek mythology, the giants came before the ruling (again, the Aesir) gods. Two of the dwarves -- who had sprung from the decaying corpse of Ymir, Fjalar and Galar, invited Kvasir to their home, where they killed him. The dwarves then drained Kvasir's , mixed it with honey and let it ferment inside two jars, called Son and Bodhn, and a kettle, named Odrorir, to create a very special Mead. Those who drank of it would become inspired.

On the other side of the hole in the Cave wall was Suttung's daughter Gunnlod who was not at all amiss to letting the god have a drink of the mead. But she did want something for herself in return. If Odin would sleep with her, she would let him have one drink. Odin obliged. After the first night and the morning's drink, she agreed to let him have a second drink in exchange for a second night. By the end of the two nights, two of the vessels had been drained. Gunnlod and Odin made the same bargain for the third night of drink and so the next day, Odin, filled with the inspirational Mead, departed in the shape of an Eagle to speed his return to his home at Asgard.

There is some question as to whether or not Y'shua drank of the vinegar mixed with gall and how many times it was offered. It is possible that before he finished his task he refused it but after he accepted it.

"Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar and they filled a spunge with vinegar and put it upon hyssop and put it to his mouth. When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished and he bowed his head and gave up the ghost."

Whether or not the person's understanding is correct in the below article, the possibility remains that, to some extent, Y'shua was affected by a psychedelic drug while on the cross, shortly before he perished and at about the time that he allowed the discharge that made its way to the Shroud of Turin.

Why was He offered "gall and vinegar"? The sooner a crucified man loses consciousness the quicker he dies. In Roman records a mixture of opium and datura-like henbane in vinegar is administered during executions. Opium contains morphine, vinegar is dilute acetic acid; morphine dissolved in acetic acid becomes acetylated over time, forming small amounts of diacetylmorphine, or heroin, and significant amounts of monoacetylmorphine, which is pharmacologically identical to heroin in its action. "Gall" is any bitter exudate of a plant; opium is the only bitter exudate that would be useful in this circumstance. Gall is sometimes translated as "myrrh", also a bitter plant exudate, but one medically useless at an execution. When first offered the doped sponge (a sponge is the simplest way of carrying liquid to a crucified man) Christ refused it. (Matthew 27:34, 27:48). He knew what it was for; besides, He still had His Godlike powers. But after "Father why have you forsaken me?", He was presumably only human - and He accepted the sponge, drank of it and died.

So, as I am checking into this some more I find that it turns out that Marijuana actually has its own private receptor in the brain - unlike any other drug on the market - and this receptor is not just in humans but in most, if not all, of the animal kingdom as well.

Kinda like we were designed to partake of Cannabis for a specific reason, huh?

Here is what I think it is.  I mentioned this the other day on another thread and the possibility is that, in fact, the Tree of Life, because of its distinctiveness in the plant world, may actually have been some type of psychedelic plant.  That being proposed, it is possible that, in fact, Marijuana is its very close cousin, if not the very plant itself which, before the flood with the increased atmosphere, actually bore tiny red fruit.  If you look at the picture of the Tree of Life in the Egyptian Hieroglyphs and in the Summerian records, as well as in the constellation of Hercules where he holds it in his hand, you will see that the Tree of Life is actually a Shrub Tree of sorts and its height is about that of a mature Marijuana Plant.

So, why hasn't anyone become immortal from this plant if that is the case and the answer is that it doesn't bear its fruit anymore and thus no one can become immortal (but it does explain why its been outlawed just about everywhere, doesn't it) and then, the possibility is, what of those who have gotten stoned and then went to communion for, chances are, some people have done this and the answer to that is that they are supposed to ingest it, not smoke it, for then the active ingrediant would make its way to the specific receptor in the brain (as well as possibly other places, like the apendix) so that when the Eucharist is properly transubstantiated and mixed with the right faith, it could result in immortality - in theory.

Problem is all the Apostolic conditions would need to be met and it is possible that even then it wouldn't work unless you were one of the Apostles or someone of like Faith.

Or if you had been to Theoferrum in the Spirit...

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Intersting little point there, hey.

Why are the CB1 receptors located in the reproductive system? 

Maybe to make people sterile who become immortal.

Cannabinoids are a group of terpenophenolic compounds present in Cannabis (Cannabis sativa L) and occur naturally in the nervous and immune systems of animals.

At present, there are two known types of cannabinoid receptors, termed CB1 and CB2, with mounting evidence of more.  The term cannabinoids also refers to a unique group of secondary metabolites found in the cannabis plant, which are responsible for the plant's peculiar pharmacological effects. 

CB1 receptors are found primarily in the brain, to be specific in the basal ganglia and in the limbic system, including the hippocampus. They are also found in the cerebellum and in both male and female reproductive systems. CB1 receptors are absent in the medulla oblongata, the part of the brain stem responsible for respiratory and cardiovascular functions. Thus, there is not a risk of respiratory or cardiovascular failure as there is with many other drugs. CB1 receptors appear to be responsible for the euphoric and anticonvulsive effects of cannabis.

CB2  receptors are almost exclusively found in the immune system, with the greatest density in the spleen. While found only in the peripheral nervous system, a report does indicate that CB2  is expressed by a subpopulation of microglia in the human cerebellum. CB2 receptors appear to be responsible for the anti-inflammatory and possibly other therapeutic effects of cannabis.

The Basal Ganglia (or basal nuclei) are a group of nuclei in the brains of vertebrates, situated at the base of the forebrain and strongly connected with the cerebral cortex, thalamus and other areas. The basal ganglia are associated with a variety of functions, including motor control and learning.

The Cerebral Cortex is a sheet of neural tissue that is outermost to the cerebrum of the mammalian brain. It plays a key role in memory, attention, perceptual awareness, thought, language and consciousness.

The Thalamus is a midline paired symmetrical structure within the brains of vertebrates, including humans. It is situated between the cerebral cortex and midbrain, both in terms of location and neurological connections. Its function includes relaying sensation, special sense and motor signals to the cerebral cortex, along with the regulation of consciousness, sleep and alertness.

The Hippocampus is a major component of the brains of humans and other mammals. It belongs to the limbic system and plays important roles in long-term memory and spatial navigation.  In humans and other primates, the hippocampus is located inside the medial temporal lobe, beneath the cortical surface.

The Temporal lobe is involved in auditory perception and is home to the primary auditory cortex. It is also important for the processing of semantics in both speech and vision. The temporal lobe contains the hippocampus and plays a key role in the formation of long-term memory.

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Here is an old article of mine called De Ja Vu and also the Melatonin Miricle.  This bears directly on the information above so I thought I would include it here.  I have actually tried the Melatonin suppliment and found that it allowed an overabundance of Seratonin which then produced, among other things, an overabundance of testosterone cause I didn't need to produce any more melatonin so the seratonin was available for other chemcals.  Now, the information above ties directly to this for Marijuana affects the very areas of the brain that produce Seratonin and Melatonin and thus I suspect I am getting closer to the Fountain of Youth, as some people refer to Melatonin.

De Ja Vu

Journal Entry: Tue May 1, 2007, 11:55 AM

Recently I have been researching the Pineal Gland and how it affects the Brain for various reason and I am gonna sum up what I found here. This is actually a combination of three separate posts on the subject which was finalized today.

The Pineal Gland

The Pineal Gland produces two main chemicals - Seratonin and Melatonin

Here's the deal.

When you close your eyes, the light sensitive production of Melatonin kicks in. Melatonin is like a natural psychedelic drug which allows the spirit or sub conscience to kick in and 'control' the system while you are asleep. It is in this condition that the spirit is open to outside forces - be they devils, demons, fallen angels, aliens, OOB humans or governmental MKUltralites. Hitler - the greatest demagogue that the modern world has seen to date - was very aware of this and stated that it is much easier to brainwash people at night because they are more open to outside influence. He may not have been aware of the chemistry involved, but he was 100% correct, because at night, when it is dark, your body starts producing melatonin and you become more aware of the spiritual realm and at risk of being 'controlled' by a handler who probably does not have your best interests at heart.

In other words, its like opening the door to your house, right before you go to bed.

For people that think that they are under any kind of oppression from any of the sources above, the best thing that you can do is to start sleeping with a light on in the room which will inhibit the production of melatonin thus cutting off the connection of the spirit to your mind while you sleep and you will stop dreaming and if you are not dreaming, then no one can try and control you through your dreams. Eventually, in theory, when your body completely switches over to this system, there should be no more outside influence at all for, I am willing to bet, that the majority of government brainwashing is accomplished through this system and augmented with other forms, like antidepressants, etc.

And, by the way, they also augment this by trying to brainwash you through your cable and satellite boxes and possibly your computers, all of which you should unplug before you go to bed.

Now, Melatonin is produced by the Pineal Gland by taking Serotonin and turning it into Melatonin. Serotonin itself is actually produced by the Brain Stem and thus may be of more importance than even the Pineal Gland which will require further study.

Thus, if you decrease the amount of Melatonin your body produces, there will be more Serotonin available for the system to utilize.

I have tinnitus and this is, assuredly, due my body overproducing Melatonin.

Thus, the 'enlightened ones' try for the religious experience of the psychadelic effects of an overabundance of Melatonin and also they are trying for the religious experience of the low levels of Serotonin both at the same time - this is their little Androgyn System.

It never dawned on these bright boys that they might actually cancel each other out.

There is one article that said you will get religious experiences from lack of Serotonin - hence their theory as mentioned above - and yet another one says that when your body overproduces Serotonin, you will receive these religious experiences and thus we have two conflicting reports and the possibility remains very strong that the first one above was biased and which came out about two years ago now and has not had any further research performed.

So it is also that another article states that it is the Serotonin Recepter that is "most active" that will lead to these experiences - based on the exact same report - which, to me, indicates that it is producing the most Serotonin which is then being used by the system. And this is exactly the type of experience that Jacob encountered at Peneal where he was awake all night and thus his melatonin was low and his serotonin was high.

Now I will prove it. One need only ask oneself if the questioneer that they used took into account the amount of time that each person was sleeping in any given period and the answer, apparently, is no. So here is the deal. The people with the low Serotonin, but most active Recepter are the ones that are burning up the Serotonin by producing Melatonin and thus the religious experiences that they are having is the latter kind, not the former. In other words, they are less active, more 'lazy' and sleep more - passiver, feminine, whereas the ones with the high Serotonin are the ones who are not converting it into Melatonin and they have less active Recepters cause they are not burning through as much Serotonin and always have some in reserve but this is a far cry from an overproduction of it which leads to the Religious Experiences which few of them ever attain - probably because they also have an active sex life.

This, then, would lead me to believe that you can have two types of religious experiences the first, on the overabundance of Melatonin and the other one the overabundance of Serotonin however, with the former you have all sorts of problems psychologcally not only from the increased Melatonin, but also from the decreased Serotonin whereas, with the latter experience, the body is working at its optimum with little, if any, bad side effects and is, therefore, healthier for the individual and, one would imagine, with the experience as well.

Thus, one leads down to the earth and the other leads up to heaven.

Or to put it into words and symbols that you might understand - the Serotonin is the Active Male Chemical and the Melatonin is the Passiver Female Chemical and the two are normally in harmony and operate as such (why is it that when men have sex they want to go to sleep and when women have sex it wakes them up - this is a similar question to the one that we are pondering concerning the chemicals processes in the body and how they are all related). Thus, when the body is using more Serotonin, it is using less Melatonin and vice versa and here you have the duality that is expressed in nature as well in most of the worlds cultural mythologies and philosophies.

What these people are doing, as stated, is cancelling out the effects of both so that they end up with neither. They may have some type of religious experience, but it is totally one sided and just like the stupid bitches they has working for them, where the men want to be women and the women want to be men, you are actually ending up with neither or some type of fat wanna be lesbians - the Lesbian Thesbian.

What you need to do - and the fact that it has never been tried alone is all the proof I need for my argument, because no one has ever accomplished anything in the last forty years or more, either with myself or anyone else - is this.

Since there is no drug that will induce overproduction of Melatonin because it does not pass through the central nervous system, you first need to get the subject to overproduce that Chemical on its own by restricting the light source for an extended period of time. Then, when there is an overabundance of melatonin present, you would then need to have the subject take the drug (forget the name but I am sure they know what it is) that induces the body to overproduce Serotonin so that both chemicals in overabundance hit the body at the exact same time and, one would suppose, that they would have some type of religious experience beyond anything ever recorded by anyone else since tests were first performed on the psychedelic aspects of the brain's chemistry.

This could be done either with celebacy or with cosmic sex and the results will probably be similar although, I'd go with the Cosmic Sex myself.

And, in fact, as I was thinking about this on the way over to the college, I realized that, in realilty, you would want to go with the Cosmic Sex because you are gonna be throwing in alot of hormones and endomorphines and the every potent Testosterone into the already explosive equation and yet you will still be achieving the 'Androgyn' Stage with the two compounds mixed and the addition of all that spiritual sexual energy with the climax powered by testosterone would probably put you right through the Experiential Roof.

In other words, the Serotonin is like the King's Chamber and the Melatonin is like the Queen's Chamber and the Testosterone would be like the basement as modeled by the Great Pyramid which dimensions someone has taken and made into a water pump that puts modern pumps to shame.

Or to put it another way, this is the Spirit, Mind and Body all working together as one.

Take this with someone who has been in a biosphere at twice the barametric pressure for a month or so (which mimics preflood conditions), who had packed on the muscles (maybe a little horse steroids here and there - muscles induce the body to produce more testosterone), who has had their Pineal Gland, Heart and Brain Stem decalcified (sonically), and who has been drinking energized water for that time and you will have an Explosive Spiritual Experience under Maxium Overdrive.

Now to the conclusion where I will pull all this together.

Since I have started suppressing the Melatonin in my system, which has resulted in an increase in the Seratonin, I have noticed that there has been an increase in De Ja Vu experiences in my life.

It is too soon to tell if this is just a cyclical occurance in my life or if this is a result of the increase in Seratonin - one should keep in mind that any possible previous upswings in these experiences may also have been a result of the inadvertant suppression of Meratonin.

Now, if we postulate that this is a result of the increase in Seratonin, then we can put this to the test and theorize a couple of things and that is that the De Ja Vu experiences are not your spirit traveling back in time to see what your mind is up to (as I surmised in the past) but is in reality that both your conscious mind and your subconscious mind (spirit) are experiencing the event at the exact same time.

Thus, Melatonin is the Chemical that allows your spirit to take control of your body while your mind sleeps and recouperates and Seratonin is the Chemical that would allow you Spirit to control or reconnect to you Mind while you are awake. This latter, I believe, would be much more benificial to whatever goals one has in life - being in control of your spirit with your conscience mind would be much more desirable then to only be in control of your spirit while you are flat out asleep.

In other words the De Ja Vu experience is not a feeling of reliving an event it is, instead, that you are fully experiencing the event the way you would if your spirit was connected to your mind on a permanent basis, the way it was for Adam before he fell and, assuredly, the way it was for Y'shua all the time.

Further, it would be possible to put this theory to the test for now, under the conditions mentioned above, the subject would be able to concentrate on having a De Ja Vu experience and, in theory, would be able to make that connection between the Mind and Spirit that is so desired by many people - possibly permanently.

Now, as I was thinking about all this the next morning (today), I think I realized what the deal is.

A De Ja Vu experience is when you body has reached an equilibrium in the availability of both Melatonin and Seratonin.

Thus, on those days when you still have enough Melatonin in your system from the previous nights sleep (or when you actually replenish it the next day via various fruits including, apparently, Wine Grapes - confirmed by yesterdays De Ja Vu about one half hour after eating soup that had carrots in it which apparently is high in Melatonin), and when the Seratonin is subsequently replenished during the day, at the moment that equilibrium is reached both the Mind and the Spirit are active and very close to being permanently reconnected, and you have a De Ja Vu experience.

This, however, starts burning up both chemicals immediately and, when the Melatonin level drops too low, you lose the experience and this, then, is not subsequently replenished until the next time you go to sleep which burns up more Seratonin which won't be replenished until the next day and thus the experience usually only last a second or more however, I have had one that lasted close to ten seconds if not more, on at least one occasion about a year ago.

Now, there are two producerors of Melatonin in the system - one is the Pineal Gland and the other is the Retina and I would guess that, before the fall, when the spirit was still connected, that the spirit ensured via the Pineal Gland that one always had an adequate supply of Melatonin, and the Mind itself would also have insured that there was an adequate amount of Seratonin and thus these were always in Abundant Equilibrium and the person would have been on a constant De Ja Vu Existence.

With the fall, the connection of the Spirit to the Pineal Gland was lost and thus the Melatonin was then only produced at night and the equilibrium between the two was lost, permanently, for all practicle purposes.

"The Candle of the Body is the Eye. When thine Eye is Focused, your whole Body is full of Light. When your Eye is Obscure, your body is full of Darkness."

This seems hinted at in the verse above (Hill Translation) where the word Focus has connotations of being whole or full or united thus connected, and the word Obscure has connotations of being poor or lacking substenance.

Thus, in one of my posts, when I stated that you needed to have an overabundance of both chemicals at the same time, was assuredly correct but the subject would need to be wide awake, not asleep, for a person that is asleep will not be able to tell the difference between dreaming and a De Ja Vu experience.

It is sort of like phasing a generator online when I worked for the power company at a hydro plant.

First you bring the generator up to the proper RPM Speed or Current (the subject must be awake), and then you bring it up to the proper Voltage (proper amount of Melatonin) and then, when it is at the proper Frequency (proper amount of Seratonin), you can close the circuit breaker and you are online and producing energy.

I would guess, that if you had a person in the above conditions that it may actually be possible to induce a De Ja Vu experience using the right brain wave frequiences (some places do this with the light frequency however, there may be a difference between the perfect frequency for plants as opposed to the perfect frequency for animals including man) and, if so, that experience could be held in place until the person learned to do so themselves thus, potentially, making it a permenant condtion.

I suspect with myself that it would become permenant depending upon how much of my change had started to occur...

-- Edited by Theoferrum on Wednesday 16th of June 2010 07:05:11 PM

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And here is a more detailed description of the CB1 Receptor which is what we are interested in.  Note that they are present in the Liver and thus I would guess in the Apendix as well and I suspect that the drug would activate the receptor but that another compound would piggy back into the receptors via the drug and that is probably what actually leads to immortality.  Note, again, that they affect the male reporductive system and I would suspect that, as stated, when the compound activates one's immortality, it turns off the sperm producer at the same time rendering the person sterile.

The Cannabinoid Receptor Type 1, often abbreviated to CB1, is a G protein-coupled cannabinoid receptor located in the brain. It is activated by endocannabinoid neurotransmitters including anandamide and by the compound THC, found in the psychoactive drug cannabis.

CB1 is expressed on several cell types of the pituitary gland, in the thyroid gland, and most likely in the adrenal gland. CB1 is also expressed in several cells relating to metabolism, such as fat cells, muscle cells, liver cells (and also in the endothelial cells, Kupffer cells and stellate cells of the liver), and in the digestive tract. It is also expressed in the lungs and the kidney.

CB1 is present on Leydig cells and human sperms. In females, it is present in the ovaries, oviducts myometrium, decidua and placenta.  It is probably important also for the embryo.

Varying levels of CB1 expression can be detected in the olfactory bulb, cortical regions (neocortex, pyriform cortex, hippocampus, and amygdala), several parts of basal ganglia, thalamic and hypothalamic nuclei and other subcortical regions (e.g. the septal region), cerebellar cortex, and brainstem nuclei (e.g. the periaqueductal gray).

The Neocortex, also called the neopallium and isocortex, is a part of the brain of mammals.  It is involved in higher functions such as sensory perception, generation of motor commands, spatial reasoning, conscious thought and language.

The Hypothalamus is a portion of the brain that contains a number of small nuclei with a variety of functions. One of the most important functions of the hypothalamus is to link the nervous system to the endocrine system via the pituitary gland (hypophysis).  The hypothalamus is responsible for certain metabolic processes and other activities of the Autonomic Nervous System. It synthesizes and secretes neurohormones, often called hypothalamic-releasing hormones, and these in turn stimulate or inhibit the secretion of pituitary hormones. The hypothalamus controls body temperature, hunger, thirst, fatigue and
circadian cycles.

The Cerebellum
does not initiate movement, but it contributes to coordination, precision, and accurate timing. It receives input from sensory systems and from other parts of the brain and spinal cord and integrates these inputs to fine tune motor activity.

The Brainstem regulates the central nervous system and is pivotal in maintaining consciousness and regulating the sleep cycle.

The Leydig Cells, also known as interstitial cells of Leydig, are found adjacent to the seminiferous tubules in the testicle. They produce testosterone in the presence of luteinizing hormone.

A Circadian Cycle is a roughly 24-hour cycle in the biochemical, physiological, or behavioural processes of living entities, including plants, animals, fungi and cyanobacteria. Circadian rhythmicity is present in the sleeping and feeding patterns of animals, including human beings. There are also clear patterns of core body temperature, brain wave activity, hormone production, cell regeneration and other biological activities. In addition, photoperiodism, the physiological reaction of organisms to the length of day or night, is vital to both plants and animals, and the circadian system plays a role in the measurement and interpretation of day length.

THC, as well as the two major endogenous compounds identified so far that bind to the cannabinoid receptors (anandamide and 2-arachidonylglycerol) produce most of their effects by binding to both the CB1 and CB2 cannabinoid receptors.

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Here is a History of the use of Marijuana and I suspect that the Gall that was mixed with the Vinegar was, in fact, Marijuana and not Opium and it follows the currect practice of making some type of drink out of alchohol mixed with this Sacred Grass cause the alchohol brings out the THC.

Of note is that the Scythians and Sarmatians both used it religiously before the times of Christ for I have identified both of these peoples as being from the Ten Lost Tribes and, further, even the Talmud talks about its use in a positive light.  Further note is that Zoraster (whom I believe was probably a reformer of the already existing Mithras religion, rather then its founder) was a user and this, then, is assuredly the drug used in that particular religion.  Some might consider this to be sacrilige but it may be possible that Y'shua himself used Marijuana.

In fact, the only disparaging remarks about this plant is from Modern Day Prudes who want to keep it illegal.

In fact, it never should have been criminalized...

2727 BC First recorded use of cannabis as medicine in Chinese pharmacopoeia. In every part of the world humankind has used cannabis for a wide variety of health problems. 2

1500 BC Cannabis cultivated in China for food and fiber

1500 BC Scythians cultivate cannabis and use it to weave fine hemp cloth. (Sumach 1975)

1200 - 800 BC
Bhang (dried cannabis leaves, seeds and stems) is mentioned in the Hindu sacred text Atharva veda (Science of Charms) as "Sacred Grass", one of the five sacred plants of India. It is used by medicinally and ritually as an offering to Shiva. 3

700 - 600 BC
The Zoroastrian Zend-Avesta, an ancient Persian religious text of several hundred volumes, and said to have been written by Zarathustra (Zoroaster), refers to bhang as Zoroaster's "good narcotic" (Vendidad or The Law Against Demons)

700 - 300 BC
Scythian tribes leave Cannabis seeds as offerings in royal tombs.

500 BC Scythian couple die and are buried with two small tents covering censers. Attached to one tent stick was a decorated leather pouch containing wild Cannabis seeds. This closely matches the stories told by Herodotus. The gravesite, discovered in the late 1940s, was in Pazryk, northwest of the Tien Shan Mountains in modern-day Khazakstan.

500 BC Hemp is introduced into Northern Europe by the Scythians. An urn containing leaves and seeds of the Cannabis plant, unearthed near Berlin, is dated to about this time.

500 - 100 BC Hemp spreads throughout northern Europe.

430 BC
Herodotus reports on both ritual and recreation use of Cannabis by the Scythians (Herodotus, The Histories, 430 B.C., trans. G. Rawlinson).

100 - 0 BC The psychotropic properties of Cannabis are mentioned in the newly compiled herbal Pen Ts'ao Ching which is attributed to an emperor c. 2700 B.C.

0 - 100 AD Construction of Samartian gold and glass paste stash box for storing hashish, coriander, or salt, buried in Siberian tomb.

70 AD
Dioscorides mentions the use of Cannabis as a Roman medicament.

170 AD
 Galen (Roman) alludes to the psychoactivity of Cannabis seed confections.

500 - 600 AD
The Jewish Talmud mentions the euphoriant properties of Cannabis. (Abel 1980)

900 - 1000AD
Scholars debate the pros and cons of eating hashish. Use spreads throughout Arabia.

1090 - 1256 AD
 In Khorasan, Persia, Hasan ibn al-Sabbah, the Old Man of the Mountain, recruits followers to commit assassinations...legends develop around their supposed use of hashish. These legends are some of the earliest written tales of the discovery of the inebriating powers of Cannabis and the supposed use of Hashish.

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In ye previous books, most loving Areius, we have discoursed of Spices, & of Ointments, & of Oyles, and of Trees & the of Fruits from them, of the Lacrymae, as also of Living Creatures & of Frumentacea, & of Potherbs, & of the sharpness-possessing Herbs, but in this being ye third book, we will set upon an account of Roots, and of Juices, & of Herbs, & of Seeds apt both for common use & for medicament. 

165. KANNABIS EMEROS. Cannabis Sativa



Cannabis [some call it Cannabium, some Schoenostrophon, some Asterion, ye Romans Cannabis] is a plant of much use in this life for ye twistings of very strong ropes, it bears leaves like to the Ash, of a bad scent, long stalks, empty, a round seed, which being eaten of much doth quench geniture, but being juiced when it is green is good for the pains of the ears. 

166. KANNABIS AGRIA. Althea Cannabina 

Cannabis sylvestris [some call it Hydrastina, ye Romans Terminalis some Cannabis] bears little rods like to those of Althea, but blacker & sharper & smaller; but ye leaves like to ye sative but sharper and blacker; ye flowers reddish like to Lychnis, but ye seed & roote like to Althea. The root being sodden, & so laid on hath ye force to assuage inflammations & to dissolve Oedemata, & to disperse ye obdurate matter about ye joints. Ye bark also of this, is fitting for ye twining of ropes.


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Holy Smoke!


This is absolutely incredible.  The articles below show that, in fact, the word in the Bible called Kaneh Bosm which is usually translated as Calamus is, in fact, Cannibis and, phonetically, there is no doubt for as one person noted, the M at the end of the word is the plural and would be dropped in the English and you would pronounce the very word as Canibos - Last Dance with Mary Jane, hey!

It occurs in several, very revealing, verses in the Bible in regards to the particular subject of my Theosis.  It is used to make the Holy Anointing Oil and it was used, symbolically, in the Holy Menorah itself!  He actually requested some of it to be brought to him as an Offering to his Temple which he then measured using one of these plants stalks for a Measuring Stick.

All those uses are geared to the Religious Experience of Knowing God in His Temple using the Sacrifices and Cannibis.

And, further, get this.  The Instructions for making the Holy Oil would have been similar to making the Cannibis Butter where the fat from the butter would absord the THC from the Marijuana, but leaves the bad incrediants behind - one of the benefits of ingesting instead of smoking.  Then, however, just using this Oil would, probably, give someone (like a King or Prince that is anointed with it) a contact high, but I think we can make a logical deduction about another use of this Oil and that is to make the Holy Incense as well.

To make the incense, you need to add some type of ingrediant that is gummy and, in fact, the Ancient Egyptians (the skilled Apothecary of the passage on the incense) would add Arabian Gum to the pot to make some of their incense however, they did not always use this and, for the incense without this incrediant guess what they would add?

The previously mentioned Psychedelic Lotus Oil!

Now, in the process of making the Holy Incense, they were not allowed to add the Arabic Gum - its not on the incrediant list and neither is the Lotus Oil - so, what are they gonna add to it to make it gummy.

Yeah, they're gonna add the Holy Anointing Oil loaded with THC to the Incense and then, when it is burned the Priest - and possibly the People depending upon how much was used and where - would get probably a little bit more then just a contact high and then they would be in the perfect state of mind for a meeting with the Creator and Redeemer and Friend.

This is actually implied by the context itself for the word used for Confection concerning the Incense is also used one other time in the Bible, in this very passage, when referring to the Holy Oil and is translated as Ointment by the KJV.  The actual word is RoQach and it is very similar to ReQach which is used only one time in the Bible in Songs 8 of the Spiced Wine.

Though this is not conclusive, it certainly is extremely feasible and may require a slight bit more study.

There is good indication that the Kaneh Bosm mentioned in Exodus 30:22-25 is Cannabis and not camalus as in most translations since early times.  Camalus is Acorus camalus or Sweet Flag, a marsh plant of little value but, in Ezekiel 27:19, it is said that goods have been bought by exchange for ‘wrought iron, cassia and kaneh’ suggesting that kaneh-bosm is valued.

Is 43 Thou hast bought me no Caneh Bosm with money, neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities.

Is 42 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth.  I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.   A bruised Caneh Bosm shall he not break and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.

Ex 25 And thou shalt make a Menorah of pure gold of beaten work shall the candlestick be made : his shaft and his Caneh Bosm, his bowls, his knops, and his flowers, shall be of the same.

Ez 40 He brought me thither and, behold, there was a man, whose appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring Caneh Bosm and he stood in the gate

How to Assemble an Egyptian Incense Kit :

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This article says that the Ancient Greeks used Calamus in their Rose Perfume and I suspect this is the same thing as the Mithras Rose Ointment used in their ceremonies and that the Calamus of this passage is, in fact, Cannibis.

The New Perfume Handbook


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So, in conclusion, though there is no proof, specifically, that they used the Holy Oil to make the Incense, there is definately a precidence set where by it is acceptable to use Cannibis in religious ceremonies in order to more closely approach the Creator.  Thus, contrary to what some say, you would not be opening yourself up to satanic possession or oppression but would, in fact, be placing yourself in an optimum position for an ephipany of the Creator.

This would especially be true in an Apostolic Church over the Real Presense in the Eucharist.

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I suspect, from the etymological similarities between Cannibis and Anubis, that they are, in fact, referring to the same thing.

He was, originally, god of the underworld and I suspect that originally this was the netherworld or what we call the spirit world - thus his connection to shamans and psychedelic ceremonies.  He was, of course, associated with Sirius in Gemini for obvious reasons and he also used a White Ox Hide as his symbol.  No one knows why he uses this symbol but it certainly can easily be understood in the Mithras Religion.

He is the god of justice who weighs the souls of men in a balance with a feather and guides men through the spiritual realm.

He is also known as the Opener of the Way - apply that to spiritual enlightenment and you have a perfect description of Cannibis as described in this post.  I changed a few of the words in the quotes below to reflect this.

He is, the Watcher of the Gods...

"His symbol was a black and white ox-hide splattered with blood and hanging from a pole. It's meaning is unknown."

"Anubis known as Opener of the Way.  After weighing the heart, if the person is found to be true of voice through its trials and negative confessions, Anubis brings them before Osiris to join him in immortality. These show obvious evidence of Anubis’s connection to the god of the Spirit world.

Some of the tools of Anubis are the Phoenix Wand, or Was scepter and the Ankh. The Was scepter represents the rebirth and resurrection from death. The Ankh is the obvious symbol of life and could be referring to the eternal life that awaits the true of voice. With the image of Set in one hand and the symbol of life in the other, we can see that Anubis is balanced with both positive and negative forces. This balance makes him an excellent god to watch over the beam of the balance of Truth.

In our tradition, Anubis can be found in the roles of the Kerux and the Sentinel. Both officers wear the form of Anubis, but there are two different forms. The two are Anubis of the East (Anwusi-G m-PeioT) and Anubis of the West (Anwubi m-RemnT). Anubis of the East is worn by the Kerux and is seen as the Watcher of the gods. He guides the candidates during their journey while also guarding the inside of the temple. Anubis of the West is worn by the Sentinel, who stands outside the temple and is armed with a deadly weapon. Anubis of the West is called the Watcher Without, guarding the outside of the temple. He is in charge of the candidate waiting to be admitted into the temple.

Wonderfully, he oversees the candidate in the Hall of the Neophyte...

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So, today I just realized that it may be possible that, in fact, the Holy Oil was not only used for the Lamp and to make the Incense but it may be possible that it was also used to make the Bread of the Presense (all the ingrediants for the Holy Oil are ingestable most notably that of cinnemon which is a strange element for incense or oil, one would think and, in fact, why are all the ingrediants ingestable if one is making, purely, anointing oil and not, specifically, cooking oil?) and if it were then, literally, they would be ingesting Cannabis during a Worship service.

If this is true, David himself and those with him also ate the Shewbread and would have ingested the Cannabis and been in the perfect position for Inspiration.

Exd 29 And unleavened bread and cakes unleavened tempered with oil and wafers unleavened Anointed with Oil of wheaten flour shalt thou make them.

Now, just previous or subsequent to this is the description for making the Holy Oil for Annointing and, one would suspect, tempering (baking) the Bread.  In 1 Sam 21 it is called the Holy Bread and, one could imagine that the thing that made it holy was the Holy Oil.

So, there are a couple of Psalms that he wrote at this time when he was living off those 12 loaves but Psalm 63is the most significant and that is because he claims to have, literally, seen the Lord at the Sanctuary at Nob which was the High Place of Gibeon where the First Tabernacle and Ark were located.

O God, thou art my God; early will I seek thee: my soul thirsteth for thee, my flesh longeth for thee in a dry and thirsty land, where no water is; To see thy power and thy glory, so as I have seen thee in the sanctuary.

Because thy lovingkindness is better than life, my lips shall praise thee. Thus will I bless thee while I live: I will lift up my hands in thy name.

My soul shall be satisfied as with marrow and fatness; and my mouth shall praise thee with joyful lips: When I remember thee upon my bed, and meditate on thee in the night watches. Because thou hast been my help, therefore in the shadow of thy wings will I rejoice. 

My soul followeth hard after thee: thy right hand upholdeth me. But those that seek my soul, to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts of the earth. They shall fall by the sword: they shall be a portion for foxes.  But the king shall rejoice in God; every one that sweareth by him shall glory: but the mouth of them that speak lies shall be stopped.

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